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Gameological is becoming part of The A.V. Club

Plus some other site business.

By John Teti • October 11, 2013

Friends of The Gameological Society, I have news of a few changes—some cool and exciting, others a bit painful. They’re all made with an eye toward keeping Gameological alive and well in the long term. By the end of the year, The Gameological Society will become part of The A.V. Club proper, and all of our content will appear in the normal A.V. Club content flow. We’ll start publishing new material on The A.V. Club soon, and shortly after that, all existing Gameological articles will be imported into the A.V. Club site. (Don’t worry, the permalinks won’t break.) I’ve seen a mockup of what Gameological will look like after the “merger.” It’s pretty.

By the way, when that merger happens, we’re rebranding The Gameological Society as just Gameological, because that’s what everybody calls it anyway.

Being part of The A.V. Club rather than a “sister site” will instantly give Gameological a larger audience, and it eliminates a bunch of other complications from a production point of view. This change just makes a whole lot of sense given where Gameological and The A.V. Club are today. After 18 months, the contributors and I have a solid sense of the Gameological voice. That voice will remain and will keep evolving under the official auspices of The A.V. Club. (We’ve always been pretty tight siblings anyway.) I have a relationship of trust with the A.V. Club brass, and more to the point, they like what we’re doing here.

In preparation for the A.V. Club merger, we’re scaling back our publication schedule somewhat. Starting the week of Oct. 21, Gameological won’t publish on Mondays (except for any news items that come up), and Fridays will be pretty light, too. In addition, it’s time to bid farewell to some of our smaller features, like the daily Sawbuck Gamer reviews, The Bulletin, Out This Week, and Game That Tune. Yeah, that’s a bummer. But I want to emphasize that in no respect are these cutbacks a reflection on the superb work of the contributors involved.

Sawbuck Gamer will return to a digest format, running monthly. The What Are You Playing This Weekend? interviews will also come to an end, although we’ll still run WAYPTW? with a staff pick and of course an open comment thread. We’ll keep doing essays, reviews, longform pieces, videos, and the like—the meatiest fare is going to keep going strong. (In fact, we want to do more longform pieces than we’re doing now.) We love thinking and writing about games, so we’re going to keep doing that.

Gameological’s assistant editor, Matt Gerardi, has worked behind the scenes for more than a year now, and his contributions have been essential. He’s going to be managing the day-to-day business of the “new” Gameological, and he’ll be writing more often. Matt understands the Gameological approach and tone as well as anyone; he’s the right person to man the rudder.

As for me, I’m taking the position of Senior Editor at The A.V. Club and moving to Chicago to work at Onion HQ. I never intended to move from New York, but this opportunity was too exciting. The A.V. Club office is populated by smart, enthusiastic people who want to create entertaining and enlightening work for you all. The vibe is good there. I’ll be working on new features and initiatives, and I plan to write more and make more videos, contributing more to the A.V. Club voice as a whole. I’ll still edit much of the games coverage in consultation with Matt, and I’ll still be talking about video games a lot, too, in writing and on The Digest, because you can’t get rid of me that easily.

Anyway, that may sound like a bunch of changes, but the bottom line is that we think we’ve made a lot of cool stuff, and we plan to make a lot more. Thanks for being such a consistently fantastic readership and for your continued support of Gameological.

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247 Responses to “Gameological is becoming part of The A.V. Club

  1. foeaminute says:

    Congratulations on the promotion and the wider audience, but I can’t help but feel the same sadness when EGM went away, and when 1UP went away, and the GFW guys…

    Either way, keep up the great work.  It’s not like I don’t read avclub…

    • Aurora Boreanaz says:

       Congratulations on the promotion!

      I too will be sad to see the separate
      site go.  I love the AV Club, but it was nice to have a separate place
      just for gaming.  (And interesting since Gameological split off from AV
      Club first, and is now going back.)

    • GhaleonQ says:

      Indeed.  The terrible thing about being good at your job is that people want you to do a great amount and variety.  Let’s just hope the staff don’t go over to the supply side, even if games writing would become 20-percent better instantly.

  2. The_Helmaroc_King says:

    Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes?! As a knee-jerk reactionary, I’m against it.

    Also, if we’re no longer a Society, I’m calling it now: human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

  3. rvb1023 says:

    So the A.V. Club games section became GS, which will be reabsorbed into AV Club like some frozen antarctic monster looking to adapt? Sounds good to me.

    • Carlton_Hungus says:

      As long as there are no nuclear blasts in the vicinity of the monster I believe we’re all safe.

  4. Larry C says:

    Awww… I sorta liked the archiving system here.  AV Club’s individual pages for movies, books, etc. can be inscrutable.  Here’s to hoping you can retain the unique appearance of the GS format.

    • Electric Dragon says:

       Yes, I hope there will continue to be a separate “Gameological” tab on the main AVC page, and that the layout of that page is ok.

      Hopefully it won’t affect the community here too much, certain parts of the site are already basically sub-communities (the Tolerability Index comments thread has evolved into a kind of “Life the Universe and Everything” free-for-all, the Star Trek and Doctor Who (Classic) reviews have their own particular nerdy cliques).

  5. Roswulf says:

    Congratulations John on a well-deserved AVClub opportunity, and to Matt for taking the reins of Gameological. I’ll be eager to read whatever you come up with in the future, be it game-based or otherwise.

    At the same time, I will be saddened to see the extent Society fade a little. I’ve appreciated the work of the whole staff over the last 18 months, and I’ll miss the every weekday insights Gameological has provided. There is nowhere else to read such consistently insightful writing about games.

    I’ll also miss the peculiarities of the little side commenting community that has developed around this site. We’ll see how reincorporation into the AVClub mothership changes the environment, but as a staunch opponent of change, I say NAY!

    • ProfFarnsworth says:

      I am also intrigued by the commenting community here at the Society.  I really like how Nice every is here.  I would be very sad to see that go.

      • GaryX says:

        Make sure to get your CancerAID vaccinations, NOW, y’all.

      • Crusty Old Dean says:

        Yeah, I actually really enjoy the comments at the AV Club too, but this is such a wonderful safe space. Like, the biggest brouhaha I can remember in the last few months was that guy (or girl!) whose feelings were hurt because people kept calling it “the xbone”.

        • SamPlays says:

          The one that stands out for me is when John Teti lost his shit at a commenter for criticizing the integrity of the site. Classic Internet Rage!

  6. Drinking_with_Skeletons says:

    I’m a little surprised about the Out This Week removal.  With the sheer number of game releases these days it’s always nice to have a roundup of at least the highlights.  Most game sites make announcements about specific titles (Assassin’s Creed XXXXXXXX out tomorrow!) and it makes it hard to track any but the most high-profile releases.

    • caspiancomic says:

       Maybe with JT running the AV Club, Out This Week could be expanded to a roundup of game, DVD/Blu-ray, and music releases?

      Also, as long as I’m fantasizing, expand Game That Tune to include TV and movie soundtracks.

      Also oh God, what about The Digest? Is that going to survive the merger!? I need a divorce lawyer present to keep all these assets straight in my head! I need John and Matt to reassure me that this isn’t my fault, and they both still love me very much and will always put me and the other commenters first!

      • There will absolutely still be a Digest. Do not worry about that. I have a feeling you’ll see more video content in general.

        • caspiancomic says:

           Phew, oh man. This whole ordeal is stressing me out a bit.

          Also, while I’ve got you here, we’re losing Game That Tune, but you’re still going to be writing for the site, right? What about Alternate Soundtracks?

        • I’ll still be around, though I’m not making any promises about what you’ll see just yet.

          I was thinking I might post the rest of October’s Game That Tunes to Instagram, just for the heck of it.

          It should go without saying, but I’m looking forward to seeing what John does with his new position just as much as everyone else is. It has given me new hope for a third season of Work of Art: The Next Great Artist.

        • CrabNaga says:

          I definitely wanted to see more video content (I’ve been silently campaigning for a biweekly digest for months now), so this helps numb some of the pain of losing the site.

        • turboreid says:

          Here’s a vote to continue Alternate Soundtracks going. It is, hands down, my favorite feature of GS.

        • GhaleonQ says:

          If there’s any way to keep soundtrack reviews around (even though games ones are the best), I’ll click every one 5 times.  There are maybe 4 places to talk about them on the internet.

    • Carlton_Hungus says:

      Agreed on the Out This Week removal, along with the Bulletin roundup.  It was always a good conglomeration of the big releases and the lesser titles and news articles that slip through the cracks at the big sites.  Plus it had that trademarked Gameological spin.  At least from the my perspective (which has no experience in the business) they seem like low input (from the writers end) articles that I for one found quite good.

    • WayofThePun says:

      I’m assuming that they will be looped into the Newswire section of AVC.

  7. dmikester says:

    Honestly, I’m a little surprised this didn’t happen sooner from a business perspective, though it will be sad to lose the unique community that’s built up here.  But I’m especially happy for Teti, not just because he got a sweet promotion, but because it will be awesome to see him contribute more to the AV Club (his TV writing is just phenomenal stuff).  And as someone who is very likely about to leave New York for either Chicago or LA, I feel a bit like a kindred spirit.  Hopefully everyone will stick around and things won’t be too different around these parts.

    • Kyle O'Reilly says:

      I think we’re all pretty loyal to this site, and as long as the comment system doesn’t change too much everybody should be able to recognize the old society members.

      Also, Chicago > NY > LA.  Go to the windy city man.  It’s the most affordable, pretty, park-filled and friendly of the three. (Full Disclosure: I’ve only been to NY (visited 1 week) and Chicago (lived 1 year) but I played GTA V so I feel like I’ve got the gist of LA).

    • Girard says:

      Yes, that is a major silver lining. I feel like the AVClub is going to get seriously better. Gameological had well pulled ahead of AVClub as my ‘first bookmark to visit’ whenever I had some internet time even before the mass Dissolve exodus of familiar names and faces, but I’ve noticed that, since that exodus I’ve been reading less and less of the AVClub. Not out of any sort of intentional displeasure or anything, just that the things posted there seem to ‘grab’ me less.

      Teti returning to write for AVClub, and Editing the damn thing, after enjoying his writing there before, and way-more-than-enjoying his superlative editorship here, has made me excited for the direction the AVClub will be taking soon.

      Congratulations, Matt and John!!

      I am, however, genuinely saddened that our little social corner of the internet, famed for its civility and taste among game websites is going to be absorbed back into the enormous gibbering mass of gimmicks, endless snarkasm, and people-who-vote-Mass-Effect-as-best-goddamn-game-soundtrack-in-a-year-when-Hotline-Fucking-Miami-was-released (and cool, nice people, of course) that comprise a fair amount of the AVClub comments. I’m scared to trade in a community/site where commenters make silly (and really good) fan-art of the staff for one where commenters make fauxronic sexist jokes about the staff. Stakkalee, with his crazy spreadsheets, has also done a lot to support and foment community with his invaluable data-tracking of the comments here.

      AVClub comments are still better than 90% of the internet, probably, but after hanging around here so much I find AVClub comment threads somewhat more overwhelming and abrasive. It’s not so much that AVClub comments are bad, so much that GS comments were so fucking good.

      Also, this elicits an even deeper, scarier question in me: Whither Comment Cat? I don’t see Soupy fitting into the larger AVClub structure that well. Unless John’s editorship sees fit to extend the Comment Cat phenomenon to the AVC site as a whole (which might actually encourage the comments there to be more awesome).

      • GaryX says:

        You  have no idea how happy it makes me that you’re still pissed about the Mass Effect/Hotline Miami thing.

        I am too.

      • DrFlimFlam says:

        You said it all pretty well.

        I like AV Club comments because (and no offense everyone) they are often some of the funniest comments I’ve ever seen from a community, kind of an especially good bar at night.

        That being said, I do often see Gameological as the place where everyone has a nice latte the morning after. So while I think this is a net gain for AV Club, I’ll miss the little offshoot site Gameological was while still supporting where it’s going.

      • John Teti says:

        First, thank you for this moving comment. Second, I would like for Keyboard Geniuses to grow to the other sections, and it’s an idea I’ve raised in passing, but we’ll see how that shakes out—it is a time-intensive project, so it comes down to managing personal editing resources overall. In any case, it will definitely continue for Gameological comments.

        • Carlton_Hungus says:

          It seems KG could be on the wrong edge of a double edged sword after the move.  The increased views that direct AVClub involvement will bring will also bring increased comments thus upping the time-intensiveness of an already time-intensive feature.

          The comments on most AV Club articles have ballooned so much they’re nigh on unreadable sometimes based on the shear volume.

        • CrabNaga says:

          @Carlton_Hungus:disqus Yeah, I feel like following most AV club comment threads is a madman’s task, since a large percentage of it is just jokes, references, and one-liners from popular movies or TV shows. Having that wall between AV Club and GS was nice; there’s definitely a lot of overlap between AV Club and GS commenters, but the signal-to-noise ratio is a lot higher on GS than it is here. Not that I’m saying primarily making puns and jokes is bad, it’s just a bit annoying when you come to a comment thread for actual discussion.

        • zebbart says:

          @CrabNaga:disqus I enjoy the jokiness of the AV Club comments too (though I could do without the perfunctory pop culture quoting), but you’re right it makes finding real conversation almost impossible. I just watched the episode of Louie where Louie gets raped by a woman and I couldn’t wait to see how the AV community reacted to that, especially because of the the rape joke controversy of the last year. The whole first page of comments were just puns and call backs to unrelated things. Good discussions do happen there but it’s almost not worth the price of having to wade through all the silliness.

      • Hey, Free Dummy says:

        Mixed feelings here too. I’m happy that deserving, talented people have gotten promoted, but I was really enjoying the communities of the Dissolve and Gamelogical. I’ve been an AVC commenter from way back (I remember when the site was only updated once a week, which was the style in those times) and as the site has grown, it’s gotten harder to find the quality, on-topic discussions through all the muck of puns and memes and gimmicks. Granted, the AVC has some of the funniest, smartest commenters on the internet, but if I want to read Twitter jokes, I’ll go to Twitter. 

        I’m not the most active commenter on any site because I tend to catch up on articles well after they’ve been posted and the discussion has died out, but dammit, I was enjoying the hell out of you guys. Maybe an AVC-wide Comment Cat feature would encourage more substantive posts instead of the amateur comedy hour, although having Soupy troll through that many comments every day in search of gems could be construed as cruelty to animals. Anyway, guys, great job on building the community here and here’s hoping bigger can be better.

        • GhaleonQ says:

          I know that I just wrote over there that downvoting would likely drive me from the site, but if it doesn’t, I think the onus is on us to commit to real conversation there.

          I like, sometimes love the jokewriters there, don’t get me wrong, but a good mix of jokewriters, curators, info-dumpers, and analysts is what makes the comments match the quality of the site content.  If we don’t post, though, we lose command of that part of the site.  Even if it’s late, there are notifications.

      • Sarapen says:

        When was the last time you saw a firstie anywhere, not just on the AVC? Somehow the impossible has happened and that idiotic practice has disappeared from the Internet. And therefore there will not be any CancerAIDS since that was all a reaction to firsties, stealth or otherwise.

        And good lord, people, did you not see the comments for the article about the self published dinosaur erotica? Because that was a thing of beauty.

        • Girard says:

          The main comment I remember from that story was someone called “The Juggernaut, Bitch” defending the headline’s use of “girls” to describe two grown-ass women by saying “They’re described as ‘twentysomething college students’.  Those are girls.”

          Which is exactly the kind of exchange I see happen around here, like, never.

      • The_Misanthrope says:

         So I leave for half a week and this happens?  Oh well…Congrats on the promotion, JT; embrace the change; etc.

        I guess this betrays my ignorance of the behind-the-scenes action of the internet critical community, but I was not aware all those ex-AVC writers ended up at The Dissolve (whose existence I was also not aware of up until now).  Sure, I remember when they left and thinking “Well, that seems somewhat fishy”, but I never really investigated it much further.

        [Initial impression of The Dissolve:  It is very pretty, but man, do I ever hate that sliding-frames deal.  Penny Arcade Report does a similar thing and it drives me crazy.  A lot of my favorite critics are on the AVC and its related ventures so I guess I’ll be reading it anyway.]

        I’m a bit saddened to see this little corner of the internet get folded back into its sister site, but I also am of the general impression that we were incredibly spoiled for awhile there.  I’ve been around the AVC and its related ventures for ages now and I’ve seen a lot of changes, so I’m remarkably aloof about this.  Teti’s a good kid with a lot of moxie;  I believe he can make this work.

  8. GaryX says:

    Well, congrats on the promotion!
    But it sort of sounds like it’ll be like the AV Club Games section of old with some more content (and, hopefully, the Gameological voice)?

    • John Teti says:

      You could put it that way, but the old AVC games section was just 2-3 reviews posted each Monday and a Sawbuck Gamer roundup every once in a while, and we’ll be offering much more than that.

    • caspiancomic says:

       Oh man, that reminds me, what about the reviews? If Gameological is getting integrated into the AV Club, will game reviews be part of that site’s usual review lineup? Will they start handing out letter grades? Or will game reviews continue to be handled under the Gameological banner and maintain the sort of “think piece” style they have now?

      • John Teti says:

        The voice of the reviews will remain the same—the major reason that I wanted Gameological to be a separate site in the first place is that I wanted the breathing room to develop the voice independent from larger AVC concerns. And I think we’ve done that, and gotten it to a point where it’s strong enough to hold its own in the larger AV Club firmament. We don’t intend to throw away that work, nor does anyone want to. There’s plenty of precedent, too—the TV Club reviews have their own approach that’s distinct from other reviews on the site, for instance.

      • Crusty Old Dean says:

         Yes, what about Metacritic?!

    • CrabNaga says:

      I think the thing I enjoy most about Teti (and really this entire site) is that it doesn’t buy in to the hysterical fan angle of other game sites. Stuff like Destructoid sort of aims to please everyone, while people who are relatively normal dudes and dudettes that like gaming and don’t need to view every game or piece of game news as “the best thing ever” or “an absolute travesty” get thrown by the wayside. GS and its authors seem to respect their readers’ time and intelligence, while also indulging in a little silliness from time to time. They’re not afraid to be critical of a critical darling simply because it’s a “good game” or to talk about the tangential or “meta” aspects of games.

      • GaryX says:

        Conversely with that, I also feel like it avoids falling into the typical AAA game backlash that can tear apart other like minded communities. When someone asks “How do you people find GTA fun?” It’s not (well, at least not fully) a snarky, better-than-thou rhetorical question, but an actual invitation to open a conversation of how people can enjoy different games from one another.

        What I’m saying is, this community is amazing (even if I’ve never been as active in it as I’d like).

        • GhaleonQ says:

          Like the commenters, the writers float between the indie-, mid-, and blockbuster-tier games.  We all have our preferences, but, like you wrote, there aren’t teams.  I really like The A.V. Club reviews, but all of the reviewers tend toward niches.  I really like, say, NeoGAF, but there are teams.

          That’s the thing I most hope carries forward.  We’re individuals cultivating our tastes, not attorneys leading cases.

    • Dwigt says:

      It will be the AV Club of new, with two thirds of the game reviews also handled by Todd VanDerWerff with 3,000-word essays about what he expected from the game, why he didn’t get it, and what it reveals about himself as a TV show watcher.
      Then, prepare for two updates a week by Sean O’Neal about The Last Guardian.

  9. ShrikeTheAvatar says:

    I’m sad to hear about the content getting cut back, but I’m very happy for you John.  

    You definitely deserve that Senior Editor position and I’m excited to see how you’ll undoubtedly improve the AV Club.

    • Remoat says:

      I like this intended focus on longform pieces. Those articles always interest me more than some of the more casual stuff.

  10. Kevin Johnson says:

    I honestly think this was the smart move. I love GS, but I always felt the site and their overall approach to games would be better appreciated at the AVClub.

    And congrats, John! Kick some ass over in Chicago.

  11. Chum Joely says:

    OK wait, there are two critical features whose fates you haven’t mentioned: Pete Strackmeier (sp?!) and Keyboard Geniuses.  (I gather from your passing remark about The Digest that it is going to stay around in some form.)

    Based on the list you did include of what’s being cut and what’s staying, I fear for Keyboard Geniuses (not sure that it would even make sense on an organizational level, once Gameological is fully part of AV Club again). It would be a real shame to lose that, because KG and its comments section has always seemed to me to be the white-hot center (along with WAYPTW) of what defines Gameological as a distinct community.John and Matt, congrats on your respective promotions. I know you’ll be working hard to keep the Gameological spirit alive through this transition.

    • John Teti says:

      Keyboard Geniuses will continue; it’s a very important part of Gameological. Sorry, I should have said that. There will be more Strackmeier, and more of The Digest, too.

    • PaganPoet says:

      I think KG jackets and studs should “reset” when the change happens. That way I have a chance to surpass Girard and Effigy!!!

      (outcome unlikely)

      • Girard says:

        You still have that chance. You are already an awesome person/commenter, so I don’t know if there’s anything you can change/improve on that front. Maybe taking other measures, like slathering yourself in essential catnip oils, or painting yourself gold (just a shot in the dark there – it can’t hurt…), might help.

        • PaganPoet says:

          Well thanks!

          I’m also convinced I have to get rid of Loic, my cat at home. I think Soupy can smell him on me and doesn’t like that there’s another cat in my life.

  12. WayofThePun says:

    *crosses his fingers in the hopes this means John might start writing Project Runway reviews again*

  13. Citric says:

    But will we still have a cat validate how clever we are? That’s an important question!

    I’ll also really miss Out This Week, though I’m assuming The Bulletin will just be replaced by newswire updates when there’s news to wire. Still, I like knowing what’s out this week!

    I am active both places, though there’s some stuff on the AV Club that makes me concerned for its future – the sad, barren wasteland of the music section, the increasingly pissy film reviews – I’ve been there for ages, I’m sure it’ll all work out fine.

    • GaryX says:

      The book reviews have been lacking as of late as well, which is a shame.

      • Fluka says:

        Seriously.  I used to love the books section there.  Now, besides the TV Club and endless inventories…  Hey, wait!  Now they’ve got John Teti and games back!  REVITALIZE THE AV CLUB, JOHN!

      • Drew Toal says:

        I’m gonna try and angle in on the AV Club book review tip. 

        • GaryX says:

          Ah, thank you! That would be fantastic. Used to be one of my favorite parts of the site.


  14. Kyle O'Reilly says:

    On one hand, this is good because it brings the excellent content of the Gameological team to more people.

    On the other hand, I am a simple man and I loathe change.  If What are you playing this weekend disappears I will not know what to do with my Friday morning coffee & donuts breaks. And I also hope the tight-knit community here doesn’t lose it’s current atmosphere which is one of chill games discussion and chumly camaraderie.

    On the third hand, this puts me in a bind because I currently have a Fatwa against the AV Club because their review of Neko Case’s most recent album was HORSE SHIT!  It was one of the rare instance where reading something made me physically angry as in clenched fists and everything.  How could they miss the point so hard!?!? Why do people have different opinions than me!?!?!?!?

    On the fourth hand, Nathan Rabin is the best working film critic around in my humble opinion. Have you guys read his “My Year of Flops” book? The Howard the Duck chapter alone is worth the trip to the library.

    On the fifth hand, this is good, and I’m excited and curious to see what it looks like.  Super pumped.

    On the Sixth hand, Vishnu holds the destroyer of worlds.

    • GaryX says:

      Nathan Rabier?

      • Kyle O'Reilly says:

        What!?  Wikipedia, is it true?

        “On April 26, 2013, it was announced that longtime writers Nathan Rabin,
        Tasha Robinson and Genevieve Koski would also be leaving the site to
        begin work on a new project alongside Scott Tobias and Keith Phipps, with Genevieve Koski stating on her Twitter that she’d continue to write freelance articles.
        In the comments section of the article announcing the departures,
        writer Noel Murray also announced he would also be joining their project
        but would continue to contribute to The A.V. Club in a reduced capacity. On May 30, 2013, it was announced that the six writers would be a part of the senior staff of The Dissolve, a film website run by Pitchfork Media.”

        They got Noel too?  Honestly, though, the AV Club’s quality hasn’t noticably dipped and the world is littered with dedicated film fanatics so I have faith in the people writing there now.  If they keep rolling out Films that Time Forgot and Gateway to Geekery I’ll be a happy camper.

        • GaryX says:

          You should really check out the Dissolve, though, if you like their writing. They’ve been doing some great stuff over there that’d I’d say is really in line with the ethos of Gameological.

        • chrisk says:

          i know this’ll be archived over there…Ignatiy Vishnevetsky is fantastic, but i have noticed some of the TV and movie reviews have dipped some. that “year of flops” and “cult canon” stuff were golden, and outside of scenic routes, you don’t see that kind of ambitious and innovative essay series. 

        • Girard says:

          The Dissolve is great, if you’ve enjoyed AVClub over the past several years (which makes sense, as they’ve poached so many big names).

          That mass exodus is part of what makes this move exciting for me. I have nothing against the new AVClub folks (and A.A. Dowd seems to get a lot of unwarranted shit dumped on him), but apart from the occasional TVDW review or feature, I’ve found that that site has become less interesting to me (meanwhile, Gameological has become, like, my favorite website AND online community, like, evar). I feel like John will be a real shot in the arm for the AVC.

        • Dwigt says:

          @paraclete_pizza:disqus The obvious thing is that the film section is no longer the focus of the site, while the critics who more or less founded The A.V. Club as the reviews pages of The Onion were all film buffs.
          The publisher wanted more emphasis on the thing that currently drives the most traffic, the TV Club. So, the other sections have been downsized (the music or DVD sections are a shadow of their former selves) or are getting reoriented, like the film section which gets less long transversal features on film and more snippets, “Watch this” or Newswire fluff.

          So, as the AV Club had settled into a more comfortable groove with TV reviews, the old guard preferred to stick with a more film centric approach. Check what they did in the early weeks of The Dissolve, maybe not the launch week but the first and second month, they tried stuff that they hadn’t been allowed to implement at their old site.

          The Gameological being incorporated back into the main site surprises me a little, given the Gameological Society had been initially spun off to give it more room to grow.
          So, either Phipps and co. weren’t very keen on video games, lobbied for the game section moving to a different site and their departure allowed for gaming to come back inside (unlikely), or Gameological doesn’t attract enough page views as an independent site while being on the front page of the AV Club will give them more exposure (more likely). Or, of course, the matter of the cost of running a full site with regular updates with a separate staff.
          But you can be sure that TPTB are confident that the GS readers and the current AVC readers share a similar demographic profile and are compatible even more than with the movie goers.

    • Citric says:

      Rabin’s at the Dissolve now actually, part of the film exodus that happened over the summer, which is part of the reason the film section has weakened substantially (though the guy with the name I can’t spell is pretty good).

      • Aurora Boreanaz says:

        And it’s fun to make fun of the AVC’s wet blanket, A.A. Dowd.

        • snazzlenuts says:

          Dowd is such a wet blanket!  It’s like they hate everything over there, now.  I think The World’s End (fantastic film) is the last film to score an A- and was the first to score in the A-range for months before that!  Gravity got a B+!!  Makes me wish they went back to no ratings systems like Gameological.  John, please do away with the ratings systems at the AV Club, it would help with my rage.

        • Girard says:

          I actually like that guy! But I think it’s because I’m also a mirthless curmudgeon.

        • Pun-Expected Dave says:

          I love AA Dowd, but he has a very unique approach to the grading scale. 

          “How can you say I didn’t like that movie? I gave it a B- !” 

        • feisto says:

          To be fair, @paraclete_pizza:disqus, you’re a mirthless curmudgeon with impeccable taste.

    • DrFlimFlam says:

      While certainly not bad, I don’t think Neko Case’s latest is terribly great, either.

      • Kyle O'Reilly says:

         I know you made a typo and meant to say “isn’t terribly great” but that’s just your brain fixing your opinion for you.

        • DrFlimFlam says:

          “Man” is a tremendous, tremendous song. Easily one of the 10 best I’ve heard all year probably Top 5 if I really hashed it out.

          Not a huge fan of Honolulu. I don’t hate it as much as I thought I’d did, but it’s still an incredibly judgmental song that also pretends to completely understand a relationship between a mother and child.

          I like the album, but I’ve generally enjoyed her others more.

          Also, the end of “Man” has this progression that I KNOW sounds exactly like some other song, and I CANNOT for the life of me think of it. It’s driving me nuts.

    • Drew Toal says:

      Don’t worry about me. I’ll just be scribbling Out This Weeks in Gmail and sending them to myself. Wait, that sounds like you should actually worry about me.

  15. beema says:

    So it’s going back to how it was before, essentially? I mean, Gameo broke off from being AVC’s gaming section, now it’s merging back. I guess it will just be more prominent now? Works for me. Now I don’t have to check 2 sites.

  16. The_Lame_Dane says:

    The one gaming site I read that was relatively nearby.

    Well not I ever asked for a tour.

    Also pray that Roman Polanski never makes a game.

  17. NakedSnake says:

    I’m sorry, but this is a big bummer. I had to read it a couple times to even get my head around it. I really appreciated what this site had achieved as a separate entity. No offense to the AV Club, which I love too, but I always appreciated the smaller, more intimate appeal of Gameological. There was such a strong connection between the contributors and the commenters here; a sense that a dialogue was really happening. Moreover, there was a sense that fostering dialogue is the explicit goal of the site. This is the only site that I comment on on the internet, and it’s because of the community that was created here. It looks like the insightful articles will continue, which is a relief (although I’m sad that there will be fewer of them), but I’m not looking forward to trying to have a conversation amidst a sea of tired one-line jokes.

    I don’t mean to sound so negative. This is, of course, a great opportunity for Teti and Gerardi. And it will mean wider viewership for all contributers, I assume. But this feels like more of an ending than a new beginning and I just wanted to say that as far as I’m concerned, this was a unique and special place and I’m sad to see it go. Here’s hoping we can hold on to some of the magic going forward.

    • GaryX says:

      [Read @baneofpigs:disqus ‘s lovely post, pushes him onto the ground, steals lunch money.]

    • Aurora Boreanaz says:

      Yeah.  I enjoy the AVC comments section for the most part, but am wary
      of the game articles getting overwhelmed by the sheer number of them
      like they often do over there.

      On the upside, I didn’t realize
      that the new version of Disqus allows you to star conversations as
      favorites.  That will help me keep track of stuff I want to talk about.

      • PaganPoet says:

        Oh my god, trying to comment on a Breaking Bad episode the morning after it aired…you just know when you’re comment #748, it will not be read.

      • GaryX says:

        Can that be done on the AV Club’s version of Disqus?

      • GaryX says:

        I hadn’t seen that yet, thanks. Seems like the AV Club is having one massive panic attack at the moment.

        • Carlton_Hungus says:

          A panic attack that began with the Rabin/Koski/Robinson exodus.

          Although I suppose its unfair to blame them for the Disqus update.

    • Kyle O'Reilly says:

       I imagine it will be more like one high-school shuts down, and all the kids have to go to a new school where they all recognize each other and form a niche clique with inside jokes and other things while sort of interacting with the kids at the new school.

      We’ll have the same avatars Naked Snake!  Yeah, there might be guys at this new school who shout dumb shit like “Cancer/Aids hurrdurr” and there will be other popular kids whose comments will be on top probably, but gameo gang will all still be there.

    • His_Space_Holiness says:

      I’m a bit worried about an influx of the AV Club’s small but irritating band of trolls and snide assholes. I mean, it’s not a huge threat, and most commenters aren’t like that, but the few that are can ruin a comments section real fast.

    • Girard says:

      Your sentiment is very close to the one I posted above. I do have some hopes for the future though: 1.) most the commenters on ‘Gameological’ will be folks from here, who will hopefully set the tone of discourse. 2.) Above Teti has said that Keyboard Geniuses will remain, which is a key community-building part of the site – and he even suggested he may, in his editorial capacity, extend it to the AVC proper, which might encourage more genuine cleverness and less snarkiness across AVC as a whole. 3.) AVC does have its really nice little comment niches – like the ‘food thread’ that would crop up each week in the Tolerability Index. I think it’s possible to encourage and maintain intimate, funny, not-obnoxious comments within the larger gimmick-sphere of the AVC comments.

    • Fyodor Douchetoevsky says:

      I totally agree with you here. I used to love the AVC comments, but I hardly even bother with the site proper these days. Most of my commenting is on here, with a little bit at The Dissolve. 

      I loved the tone around here, where people are usually sincere and understanding and thoughtful and nice. The AVC is too fun, but I just am not really in the market for that kind of snarky edginess or whatever, even though it is generally better than other internet comment boards. 

      It’s like moving from a nice little town to a terrifying city. 

      Also, damn, i’m pissed at how upset I am over a fucking website. Yall are great. <3

  18. beema says:

    Anyway, cheer up everyone, Frictional put out a new gameplay trailer for SOMA:

    (but it’s not coming until 2015, back to being sad)

  19. a_scintillating_comment says:

    Congrats on the promotion John. Thanks for spearheading the creation of the best gaming community on the net. 

  20. caspiancomic says:

    I feel kind of like my parents are getting divorced, but then each getting married to my favourite celebrities and moving into two different mansions. I’m really bummed to see some of the features and the publishing schedule getting cut back (Game That Tune, we hardly knew ye), since this place is kind of my home away from home. And I doubt that Keyboard Geniuses will survive the integration into the AV Club. This place has always felt like a super-hip little indie gem, the sort of place where you have a personal relationship with the staff, and while the AV Club isn’t exactly Walmart, I’m still a little tender about the amalgamation.

    That said, though, Teti, you totally deserve a promotion of this magnitude, and I’m really excited to see what’s going to happen over at the AV Club with your guidance. I’m also a big fan of Matt Gerardi’s work, and look forward to seeing his contributions to the site increase. I’m a little shook up about this, but its mostly because I fear and resent change like any emotionally unstable overgrown child. In my upper brain functions I totally trust the staff here, and know that decisions like this, while scary at first, are done in the best interest of keeping the site, content, and community alive.

    Godspeed Gamelogicans.

    • PaganPoet says:

      If my dad married Kylie Minogue and my mom married Jim Gaffigan…that would be pretty swell.

    • Citric says:

      Let’s do our own game that tune, with blackjack and hookers!

      Actually, seriously, maybe we should do our own game that tune. I think enough of us listen to game music that we could have a few contributors, we could do a rotating cast of people each doing a recommendation and a little bit of discussion about a song…

      …I have to run and do work now, but I’m taken with this idea.

      • caspiancomic says:

         Dood, I like this a lot. I’ve got a feeling we’re going to lose Keyboard Geniuses, but we could probably decide on a Gameological holdover to serve as the new “potluck” comment section- outgoing links, free conversation, plugs, the Weekend Prompt, maybe even Stakkalee’s stat-keeping in one form or another (oh God, Stakkalee! All my studs are going to be worthless! Too late I realize my children are my only real treasure!) We could start a sort of grassroots Game That Tune, an open thread where commenters discuss various tracks…

        • Citric says:

          I think the problem with an open thread is where you put it, since the AV Club’s TI (the current free for all over there) quickly gets somewhat out of hand and difficult to navigate, and I’m not sure where a consistent place might otherwise be.

          Then again, the only people who would visit an outside site are the seriously devoted, but I’ve had fun with our Project Runway splinter group.


          It might be kind of neat to have a GtT-inspired blog though, provided we could get a merry band of hearty contributors. I’ve also always wanted to do a game music based podcast but that would require understanding the legal nonsense surrounding playing music which would require more research than I’m willing to do.

        • Electric Dragon says:

          By the sounds of it, John will be trying to keep KG running. And if so, it would be the perfect place for Game That Tune open threads. Otherwise, WAYPTW.

      • Chalkdust says:

         I was already piggybacking on Game That Tune so maybe this’ll serve as a push for me to do something more structured and of-my-own.

        I’ve also been wanting to curate some sort of “outsider voices” collection of reviews, articles and essays, too.  Like a wiki of critique where you’d pull up, say, the Persona 3 page and have links to interesting stuff from just-folks alongside mainstream sources (reminded by the striking similarities between caspiancomic and Luke Plunkett’s analyses of Persona 3 and in-game time).

        • Citric says:

          I’d like to do something with game music myself for a few reasons:

          1-A multi-year music thing I’ve been doing wraps up next year (it involved all the Billboard #1 singles). I’m faintly embarrassed by some of it, so no linking, but that makes me want to do a regular hobby site after that has wrapped.

          2-Because of the nature of that thing, I want to keep writing about music, but this time do it with someone else, so I’m not responsible for all the content. That damn thing updates daily, never again (this may explain why I’m embarrassed by lots of it).

          3-Game music is really neglected, and the people who cover it heavily kind of keep within very specific niches (RPGFan often has good coverage, but it’s limited to one genre) which is why GtT was so great. It was all about sharing the joy of great soundtracks, but was accessible and pretty varied.

          Of course, I’d love to have a thing with enough pull that I’d get sent review copies of soundtracks, but that is unlikely. Still, I think a few people getting together to make a game music project could be fun. Every week could have a theme – specific series, specific style of game, everything from games starting with a certain letter of the alphabet, strange rules that we find funny for some reason – then all the contributors pitch in.

        • Chalkdust says:

           @Citric:disqus “Every week could have a theme – specific series, specific style of game,
          everything from games starting with a certain letter of the alphabet,
          strange rules that we find funny for some reason”

          I would do that forever!  I basically do that in my head already.

        • GhaleonQ says:

          @Chalkdust_TMAI:disqus @Citric:disqus Both of you, register for NeoGAF right now if you haven’t.  There’s an internet person called Nert who co-runs it with me, and we finally found our balance this past year.  Because of our jobs, he runs logistics and I run most of the suggested review content.  We get e-mails, Facebook messages, and Twitter posts from the composers themselves.  The guy who did (localized titles) Dokuro and Illusion Of Gaia’s music even sent me Dokuro’s soundtrack as thanks, which didn’t get released and which makes me the only owner of it since Vita music is hard to rip.

          We got some great contributions. Here's my post:

          On NeoGAF: if you don’t get approved in time, I could post some essays for you on soundtracks you may like.  They’d get some more readers.

          On The Gameological Society: now that I’m settling into a long-term city/job, I’d like to review soundtracks throughout the year rather than do 100 or so in November and early December.  I’d love to do a recurring series with you all.  If we could find a 4th, we could do 1 mini-essay a month about our soundtrack(s) of interest.

  21. NakedSnake says:

    I’m sorry, but this is a big bummer. I had to read it a couple times to even get my head around it. I really appreciated what this site had achieved as a separate entity. No offense to the AV Club, which I love too, but I always appreciated the smaller, more intimate appeal of Gameological. There was such a strong connection between the contributors and the commenters here; a sense that a dialogue was really happening. Moreover, there was a sense that fostering dialogue is the explicit goal of the site. This is the only site that I comment on on the internet, and it’s because of the community that was created here. It looks like the insightful articles will continue, which is a relief (although I’m sad that there will be fewer of them), but I’m not looking forward to trying to have a conversation amidst a sea of tired one-line jokes.

    I don’t mean to sound so negative. This is, of course, a great opportunity for Teti and Gerardi. And it will mean wider viewership for all contributers, I assume. But this feels like more of an ending than a new beginning and I just wanted to say that as far as I’m concerned, this was a unique and special place and I’m sad to see it go. Here’s hoping we can hold on to some of the magic going forward.

  22. Jason Sigler says:

    John, your voice and face have come to be one of my favorites in terms of talking about and discussing video games and really just pop culture as a constant, impending element of our modern lives. I am thrilled with your promotion and can only hope you will check in with the Gameological folks for a podcast or two, if only to hear how your mom is dealing with the latest in Facebook gaming.

    As for the Gameological crew … onward and upward! Thanks for some amazing content thus far and I can’t wait to read more, no matter where it resides!

  23. VS says:

    I guess I’

  24. Fluka says:

    I was initially quite worried here (albeit happy for the staff and their promotions).  But then I remembered that the original AV Club Videogames section back in the day was my introduction to Portal, Mass Effect, and generally the idea that there were modern videogames that weren’t shit.  Plus, shotgunning an entire month’s worth of games in the old Sawbuck Gamer helped me survive writing my thesis.  I’ll be sad to see some of my favorite features go, but life will go on.

    Just hope the community stays as good.  The AV/VG comment section was awful back in the day, but AV Club comments have gotten…better, at least.  At least it’ll give me a reason to go back to that site after the Film section every section that was not TV utterly collapsed.

    • Roswulf says:

       It is unfortunate that the reincorporation coincides with the switch to new, down-vote-including Disqus.

      • Fluka says:

        D: !  Wait, but the AV Club still looks like it’s positive likes only?  While I love the new Dissolve, the random drive-by downvoting tends to discourage my commenting there more frequently.

        • Roswulf says:

          Alas, they update Monday to include downvoting (and also to lose pagination). There’s a grand lamentations thread up on the mothership.

        • GaryX says:

          I don’t even notice it, to be honest.

        • Fluka says:

          @GaryX:disqus I am way too sensitive a person!

        • Aurora Boreanaz says:

          Why do people like pagination?  I despise it…especially when clicking on a notification of a reply just throws it at the top of the page with no context, then you have to go down to the bottom and change pages and use CTRL-F to find where it came from.

        • Electric Dragon says:

           @AuroraBoreanaz:disqus pagination is awful, but it’s still better than NuDisqus’ “Click for more comments”, especially in the longer threads when it can be 1000s of comments.

        • Crusty Old Dean says:

          @AuroraBoreanaz:disqus YES! Really my biggest (maybe even only) problem with Disqus. For a long time I was convinced my browser was broken or something, because surely it couldn’t be intended to work that way.

        • Dwigt says:

          @electric_dragon:disqus Yeah, it’s a PITA when you’ve got more than 200 or 300 messages on a page, but, with Breaking Bad being over and Dan Harmon moving closer to being instituted, the two main sources of messagitis are being deprecated.
          Well, two out of three but I usually don’t browse the comments for Girls.

      • Kyle O'Reilly says:

        Will I still be able to log in with Twiter instead of a Disqus account?

      • Merve says:

        I’ve been told that it’s possible for the admin to disable downvotes. I hope they do.

        • Crusty Old Dean says:

          I don’t know, I think it’s pretty nice to have threads with juicy conversation float to the top while firsties and such sink to the bottom (that IS how it works, right?)

    • PaganPoet says:

      btw, Fluka, I just learned yesterday that Guacamelee! was released on Steam and it made me think of you. How are you with 2D platforms? Regardless of your answer, play it! Or else…

      • Fluka says:

        I’ve been considering it, as it looks lovely!  I am on a strict no-buying-new-games rule for the rest of the year, I fear.  At least until the Steam Sale, when I’m allowed to use the final $20 in my steam wallet.  Perhaps I’ll use it then!  Until then, nothing I haven’t already put money down on.

      • duwease says:

        Could you order me to play it?  Because I feel like I need the excuse..

    • Girard says:

      “Plus, shotgunning an entire month’s worth of games in the old Sawbuck Gamer helped me survive writing my thesis.”

      But the admonitions of an angry commenting cat on the Gameological Society was instrumental in me finishing mine! I think it’s inconclusive whether this move will do more or less to help commenters produce theses.

  25. Joseph Finn says:

    Welcome to Chicago and congratulations on the new position!  What neighborhood are you moving to?

  26. Pun-Expected Dave says:

    I’ll be sad to lose the unique vibe that the Gameological community developed, but I shouldn’t complain about a change that will bring new voices without killing the old.

    I’m ridiculously excited to see that Teti will be a Senior Editor at the AV Club. Congrats John!

  27. PaganPoet says:

    The removal of Game That Tune is a damn shame. :( Maybe AVClub will integrate Sanskrit and vg music into the Hear This feature??

  28. Cloks says:

    Teti, you’ve routinely produced standout work, along with the rest of the Gameological Crew. I’m going to miss this site, it really felt like a community.

    Honestly, this is really disappointing news.

  29. MSUSteve says:

    Congrats on the new gig, John.  I hope we still get to hear the always awesome Bonnie Teti on the podcast sometimes.

  30. MarloweSpade says:

    I’m nervous about the content cutback, mainly because while the content that is here is of very high quality there’s already not a whole lot of it.

    That said, I’m very happy for Mr. Teti, and I hope that Gameological continues being the cool indie record store with features and spotlights that other places wouldn’t even think of – and of course with the highest level of game discourse on the Internet. I welcome your new (old?) A.V. Club overlords, but I really hope the community stays intact.

    Crap, that reminds me, we’re gonna get more Community threads now, aren’t we?

  31. aklab says:

    I will miss the separate site, particularly as a rare spotted semi-lurker like me rarely gets a chance to get in the first 5 pages of AV Club comments.
    But it is very much the AV Club’s gain. Congratulations, John!

    • Kyle O'Reilly says:

       As long as you don’t change your weird MS Paint avatar we should be able to spot you aklab.

  32. Burger_Bob says:

    I’m REALLY going to miss “Out This Week”. Many times I’ve been turned onto games that otherwise would have slipped right by without me noticing, if not for that feature.

  33. Dariusz G. Jagielski says:

    I’m sorry that you are destroying The Gameological Society.

    • Electric Dragon says:


      • Dariusz G. Jagielski says:

        For what? Saying the truth? Sawbuck gamer was one of the only features I’ve visited this site for.

        Now they’re merging with some site of dubious quality.

        It’s better to go away when site is still great and leave good memories than merge with some shit site and by extension become shit on their own.

        • Girard says:

          The “shit site” that birthed this site, and for which many of this site’s contributors have written stuff?

          And honestly, if you only came here for the Sawbuck Gamers, it sounds like you weren’t really into this “great site” anyway. If all you want is an aggregator of free Flash games that occurs more frequently than every month, just go to TIGSource or or whatever.

  34. Fluka says:

    So, last week is the final WAYPTW?  We gotta do something special, you guys.  *Plans ultimate revenge for the Space Hamster incident.*

  35. Steve McCoy says:

    Well, if nothing else, I hope Teti’s new job gives him the power to make The A.V. Club’s page layout anywhere close to the near perfection of Gameological’s layout.

  36. Spacemonkey Mafia says:

    I’m happy for the good stuff (promotions, accolades) and sad for the sad stuff. I can’t say it’s too surprising. Gameological has sort of a Camelot thing going on -a smart, friendly video game site burns all the brighter for burning brief.
       But as others say, this will be a nice opportunity for AV Club to see a much needed revitalization.
       Well, this is the most fun I’ve ever had on a standalone video game site. Thanks everyone, you all honestly make me like video games and not resent having them as a hobby.

    • NakedSnake says:

      I guess I have always wondered whether our meager clicks are enough to keep this site going. But I always just figured I don’t fully understand this internet thing. Actually, to be perfectly honest, I don’t understand how internet advertising is capable of supporting anything at all. I don’t think I have ever bought something from a banner ad except when Amazon knows I am logged in and advertises something from my wish list.

      • Girard says:

        Me, either. I do know that the GS is the only site my Adblock makes an exception for, but I have no idea how or if that helped.

      • Spacemonkey Mafia says:

        I don’t understand internet business either. But we have always been a pretty tidy little group and that’s sort of what I’m basing my assumptions on.
         I very much like having an intimate community, even if it risks being insular and a little self-congratulatory. But it’s not difficult to see that such a small group of regulars must reflect on the vitality of the site.

      • Dora_The_Explorer_Game says:

        I do not understand that either – like Girard, this site is my only AdBlock exception, but I do not see how a site with that much content/that many contributors and an (apparently?) small community can be viable. Unless there are many, many lurkers, in which case I might belong to the majority for once.
        Actually, this gets me thinking (ouch, my head): is there a way to obtain some statistics on the audience of the site? Or to make some guesstimates? I’d be really curious to have a ballpark idea of the amount of revenue such a site can generate.
        FWIW, I’d have been willing to pay a monthly fee for Gameological, but I do not think this would have been a viable model either. Taking care of a newborn through the night apparently left me in an even more optimistic mood than usual.
        Well, time to go perform a few Laplace transforms to cheer me up, I guess.

  37. Pun-Expected Dave says:

    Will John’s new role at the AV Club give him the power to bring back the caption contest?

  38. Ryan Smith says:

    I hear that Teti is moving to Chicago because he’s really in love with the world in the game “Watch Dogs.”

    Samantha and I are actually the only GS contributors (I think?) in Chi-town currently, so we’re happy to add more. 

  39. uselessyss says:

    Congratulations on your promotions and I look forward to your future work.

    It’s hard not to feel a little skeptical about the move, but even if it’s all downhill from here (unlikely), I’ll still be able to remember Gameological as a video game website that mattered to me.

  40. Merve says:

    Nooooooo! Change is bad! *throws tantrum*

    In all seriousness, congrats on the promotion, John, and good luck in Chicago! I’m going to miss this site, but I trust that Matt and the rest of the team will make the reincorporation back into the AV Club as smooth as possible.

  41. stakkalee says:

    Wow, big things are afoot.  On the one hand I have nothing but the best wishes for John and Matt and the rest of the gang during this reintegration, especially because it seems like great opportunities for everyone involved.  On the other hand I worry that what’s unique about GS (the voice, the thoughtfulness, the commenting dynamics) will be lost as they’re subsumed back in to the general AV Club snark.  I will say this, though – after the merge I’ll do what I can to foster the same sense of community and camaraderie over there that makes GS so special.

    • Electric Dragon says:

       I think it’s at least partly up to us as Gamelogerinoes to preserve the norms of the community and keep the games section special.

      • caspiancomic says:

         Yeah, like Girard said upthread, a big part of what makes Gameological Gameological is the Gameologicans. I think as long as we’re all there setting the tone of the discussion, we can still have nice things. We might get a bit of snark creep, but by and large I think the atmosphere will remain intact. Hell, with John running the AV Club, I think we’re more likely to see AV Club comments improving, rather than seeing the level of Gameological discourse suffering.

    • snazzlenuts says:

      Well said.

    • Enkidum says:

      Yup, you summed up my feelings too. I’ve never really left the AV Club, although my personality there is a little more aggressive than here, and I’d kind of like to bring more of the here-me there than the there-me here, if you follow.

      • Merve says:

        I can definitely see a difference between my AVC comments and my GS comments, just going through the ones on my Disqus dashboard. My AVC ones are about 50% ruder, snarkier, and more dickish.

        • George_Liquor says:

          Mine are too. Ultimately, though, I got burned out on the constant snark one-upmanship contests and pretty much stopped commenting there altogether.

        • zebbart says:

          The good news is now you can go methodically through all your rude, snarky comments and down vote them one by one as penitence. The fact that nu-disqus allows us not only to down vote but to up or down vote our own comments is going to tempt me into that subtle bit of meta-commentary on my own contributions I am sure. And if the disqus dashboard were more navigable I think I would actually be pretty temped to go back to the beginning of my AVClub and BoingBoing comment history and take stock of who I have been and who I have become as on online persona over the last, what, 7 years is it?

      • Spacemonkey Mafia says:

        That’s a perfect summation of my identity schism as well. I recall the first article I was going to make an AV Club-style comment and didn’t because it was too snarky for the tone here.
        It’s informed my posting temperament here since.

  42. snazzlenuts says:

    I am happy for the continuation of this wonderful site, but it saddens me for two reasons:

    1. The AV Club’s writing and reviews have gone down in quality immensely (specifically movie and music reviews), since several of the writers left for The Dissolve.  I hope, John, that you will have an influence in turning the website back into what it once was: an unpretentious and incredibly intelligent review of entertainment.

    2.  The comment section here is one of the most polite, insightful, and all-around pleasant comment sections on the web.  There are a lot of trolls at the AV Club now and I do not want to have the wonderful community drowned out by some of the masses over there.  Of course, if it is for the greater good, I’m all for it.

    BTW, you will enjoy Chicago.  It is impossible not to enjoy Chicago.  The bars are open until 4 AM and they are on every corner.

  43. Dora_The_Explorer_Game says:

    This is sad. This is very sad. This is very very, very sad. I never commented on here but I’ve enjoyed this site, and its commentariat, since its beginnings; I am no longer reading the AV Club at all but I have not missed a Gameological article in months.
    This site is my favorite corner of the Internet, and I do not believe that it will keep its charm when it is integrated in the AV Club. Losing Out This Week, The Buletin and Games That Tune does not bode well.
    Ah well. Anyway, even if it turns out my fears were founded, I’ll still be grateful for the fact that such a site could exist at all, and for all the great articles and comments. So, thanks, John, and all Gameological staff and commenters, for providing such an enjoyable way for me to while away the time and shirk my responsibilities. On the bright side, maybe now I will have time to actually play games instead of reading about them and stockpiling them on Steam.
    I will now go look forlornly through a window as the rain falls down on the streets, listening to Elliot Smith.

  44. Eco1970 says:

    The bitter boardgame player in me thinks that this will mark the end of what little boardgame coverage gameological has anyway, and the foolish optimist in me hopes this will allow more boardgame coverage. Both of me are regular followers of the avclub, so that’s not gonna change.

    While I’m here, can anyone recommend any sites apart from that are worth checking out for boardgame stuff? Someting like gameological (which I really like even if its a bit sparse) but for boardgames.

    And Mr Teti, I wish you well in the move. I’m very happy you’re going to be a bigwig at the avclub. You’re a cool frood who knows where his towel is IMO, and I think the Avclub is getting a great addition. :)

    • MarloweSpade says:

      Shut Up and Sit Down is quite good, it’s run by one of the founders of Rock, Paper, Shotgun I believe.

    • NakedSnake says:

      Well, Gameological Unplugged was announced as a new feature just this week. I don’t know how fast things these change have been taking place, but I’m hoping that implies that it is one feature that will make the shift.

  45. Eco1970 says:

    And for the love of gods, ditch fucking disqus!!! It’s appalling. I just spent 10 minutes failing to post – again – and had -again – to reset my password. Jesus. iPhone users hate disqus.

  46. DrFlimFlam says:

    I just want to add that as others have said, Teti taking a bigger role = good for AVC. More Teti, more Gerardi, all good.

  47. signsofrain says:

    I’m late to the thread as usual… while I am sad to see the separate site go, and wary of what will happen to the Gameological commentariat when exposed to the teeming and thronging hordes of CancerAIDS infected AVC posters, I will defer to the brilliant people who run this site and trust that they know what they’re doing. 

    • Kyle O'Reilly says:

       We just gotta hope the cancer aids people are more interested in “Good Job Internet” and “News” posts to drop by and plop a poop comment in a Gameological long-form piece about Double Dragon’s effect on the D.A.R.E. program.

      Gerardi, that one’s for free.

    • Girard says:

      Part of my hope is that the brilliant people who run this site will soon, to an extent, be brilliant people who help run that site.


    I guess I’m gonna have to abandon this name then, pity 

    so for everyone’s information *takes off mask* I was If Matrix Was Here He Would Laugh Too from the AVC the entire time!

    • MathleticDepartment says:

       If it’s any consolation, your username/avatar combo never fails to make me laugh


        thanks, I figured since this was a video game themed site I should come up with a video game themed name and I was quite proud of what I came up with, glad to hear it made someone laugh

    • Pun-Expected Dave says:

      I’ve never hidden my AV Club alias, even though my Twitter/Gameological profile changes. 

    • ChicaneryTheYounger says:

       You won’t, A.V. Club is switching to Disqus, and the profiles are being deleted.


  49. Naked Man Holding A Fudgesicle says:

    I, for one, welcome our new AV Club overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted Gameological personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground Community review pages. 

  50. zebbart says:

    As someone who lamented the transition of AV Club games into the separate Gameological Society, I must say that I WAS TOTALLY WRONG! I doubted that I would bother following and visiting yet another site, especially if the only content was video games which I have little time for. But it turns out that since I’m stuck at my office desk most of the day and night I have a lot more time to read about video games than I do to play them, and John and all the other writers and commentors have enticed me to do just that. And like @Enkidum:disqus said, not only are the commentors here nicer and more illuminating than at the AVClub, I am better here than there. So now I lament the change back to that which I once defended. But if John can bring his style, vision, and taste to music and movies over there it will be a good trade off.

  51. boardgameguy says:

    Congrats John!

    • Fyodor Douchetoevsky says:

      Yeah, I talked about my worries above, but I also feel like I should celebrate the success of this place. Great work, John. I sincerely hope for the best for you and the rest of the Gameological crew.

  52. Raging Bear says:

    Congratulations, John. I’m confident you will keep producing awesomeness, even if that awesomeness has a slightly different scope and/or URL.

    • Girard says:

      Which reminds me, I need to start lurking, vulture-like, to poach the gameological URL as soon as it expires, to start my OWN Gameological society. With gambling and hookers etc. Also, it will exclusively review obscure text adventures and depressing interactive Eastern European curiosities. Other games in other genres will not be reviewed, but will be assigned letter grades – all Fs. The comments will consist mostly of irate people tumbling in from MetaCritic.

      The background image will be a rapidly flickering animated .gif layer, beneath another layer of an animated gif of Blingee sparkling lightning bolts.

  53. NickHanover says:

    I’m sorry to see Gameological Society go as an independent entity, but I’m excited to see the AV Club merger and happy to see you take on the Senior Editor role, John. Hopefully this means more of your voice on the Inventories in particular because for whatever reason, those seem to be in a slump lately.

  54. doyourealize says:

    So all my fighting to get The Gameological Society to be recognized as a legitimate site in school is all for naught? The AV Club has always been accepted. Oh, well…as long as I can keep reading. Hope everything is a change to the better.


  55. Jer Link says:

    Weeee! Yay! (about the good things).

  56. tunnelhead says:

    Congrats John, the site and those of you who don’t loathe us over at AV Club by default on the upcoming move(s).  Over at the AV Club, I’m Djse.  Here, I could never log in with that account…so I’m tunnelhead.  Both accounts were registered using the same e-mail address (I think I must have joined AV Club before Disqus was in the mix).  I wonder who I’ll be on Monday.

  57. fieldafar says:

    Just want to say many thanks to the Gameological Society of the past 18 months. While I was more of a lurker than many here, I still enjoyed the quality of articles and commentbase here. Loved the balance between the AAA and obscure-ish indie titles given coverage here. Quite sad to see it change.

    That said, I am quite looking forward to what NuGS brings over at the AV Club. 

  58. Andy Tuttle says:

    Way to go John! It’s nice to see you get promoted, that’s awesome. I’m really going to miss coming to this site everyday, it’s one of a handful that I visit on a regular basis, so that makes me sad. I really like the A.V. Club though so I hope that with Gameological’s incorporation into the mothership, so to speak, you’re able to bring a sensible and thoughtful discussion of video games to the people there who just want to talk about Community. To new beginnings!

  59. Rob Steffen says:

    I feel like Old Man Murray just died again…

    Actually, I’m excited about this news.  Congrats and condolences to all appropriate parties.

  60. I just hope that the comments section won’t be invaded by the A.V. Club zombies, I found them boring and stupid while the discussions here range from educated to scintillating, Cheers all! 

  61. Oops, guess I was censored there…

  62. diplostreetmix says:

    I’m glad to hear that Sawbuck Gamer is going back to monthly. As a digest, it was a great summary of worthwhile games to play that month. There is not nearly enough wheat to justify the chaff of clicking on the (probably terrible) game every day.

  63. BobbyMcD says:

    tl;dr version: Gameological wasn’t generating enough traffic. They didn’t want to let Teti go so he’s moving to Chicago.